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Ab Initio
Evolution
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Posted - 2006.10.14 11:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Butter Dog
I understand perfectly well that you have a well developed industrial side to your alliance. That is pretty common knowledge.
However, what is it you are claiming here? Are you a PvP alliance by nature or not? How would you class ASCN?
You see, its really quite simple. You go after a fat, mainly industrial target where good kill/loss ratios are virtually guarenteed. You then boast about kill/loss ratios LIKE ITS A SUPRISE.
This is the result everyone, even ASCN, expected. So to claim otherwise is laughable.
There really is no point in having any kind of serious discussion with some people (namely you at the moment Butter Dog).
Everyone we fight has an excuse, and every time we fight there's a reason why our success should really be seen as a failure. It really is getting ridiculous.
As an alliance, we got to the point where we wanted a real fight, something of epic proportions for us and the community as a whole to get into. We pick the largest alliance in game, the most highly defended space, and an alliance that has one of the largest industrial engines in existance. An alliance that steam rolled another alliance out of two regions in a matter of days.
Then...
We get smacked for picking that target because apparently it's a "fat, mainly industrial target".
There are plenty of characters on both sides of this war, many which I've had the pleasure of chatting (or arguing) with over the last couple of weeks. I've honestly enjoyed the great social experiment that is EVE as much as I have the fighting, except for one particular serial troll.
I'm done reading your worthless posts. When we see you down here on the frontline, sharing some of your apparently limitless knowledge on EVE warfare with ASCN, perhaps we can take you seriously.
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Ab Initio
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Posted - 2006.10.14 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Jackkal
And bob needs to admitt they can't handle ascn solo. I heard from a contact in ascn thet bob has be helping them now. bob placed a pos in ASCN space. ASCN had its shield down to 20% before DT. BE has been spotted at the pos with a deep space transport to help supply it or bring in more equipment.
Your contact in ASCN lied to you I'm afraid. For starters, 20% is below the requirement for reinforced, and it definitely isn't in reinforced.
That 'attack' was the fight where we lost some inties and recons, and they lost a dread. There other two dreads jumped out of system before finishing the job.
As for BE.. What the? You're lucky anyone has even bothered giving you a straight answer with that comment.
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Posted - 2006.10.14 12:11:00 -
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Edited by: Ab Initio on 14/10/2006 12:12:00
Originally by: hitech redneck
Where is BOB's feared capital fleet. ASCN is not afraid to loose any as it would apear bob is.
Through out this entire battle to date, BoB has never actually tried to claim sov. on any ASCN space. We were (and still are) quite happy just to shoot at them.
Why rush things when we're having fun :)
As for the 'feared capital fleet'. We've already killed 13 large ASCN pos, and we didn't do it with inties. Just because they're not on showing up on ASCN killboards, doesn't mean they aren't being used.
EDIT: And with all those ASCN capital losses, I believe they've killed 2 small POS.
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Posted - 2006.10.14 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
It pretty easy to argue that D2 are better than you are right now. Industrial backbone, kill/loss, respectful yet focused leadership... by whatever measure you use, D2 come out on top... though of course its all a matter of subjective opinion.
Apparantly it's a matter of VERY subjective opinion.
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Posted - 2006.10.14 13:27:00 -
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Edited by: Ab Initio on 14/10/2006 13:30:01
Originally by: Butter Dog
Well, you can always refer to your own killboard for evidence of how effective their PvP corporations are against your alliance. No need for me to collect the data for you.
We've had this entire discussion before (and you didn't respond to my explanation last time either). The reason the stats look so good, is because you seem to have no grasp of mathematics.
You cannot compare corp vs alliance stats, it just doesn't work.
EG:
100 BoB vs 99 D2 and 1 BD.
BD is involved in 10 kills before he and the rest of the fleet is wiped out. BD now has a 10:1 kill ratio against BoB, even though the whole of his fleet was wiped out and only 10 BoB died. Corp vs alliance numbers DO NOT WORK.
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Posted - 2006.10.16 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Reite
Hahahaha come on. There is no logic nor sense in any of your posts. Is this atreus guy ur alt? He has to be very badly biased to actually be fooled by the so called arguments you puke out.
Please point me to a single post of mine, in which I am constructing an arguement, which has no logic or sense.
Go on, I'm waiting...
The posts comparing corp to alliance stats is probably a good place to start. There was at least 4 well written explanations of why they make no sense, and yet you posted the same argument a number of days later.
In regards to the definition of a "troll", I generally base it on whether a person is as willing to respond to the well written responses as the smack. I've seen you constantly ignore almost every serious post, while chomping at the bit to reply to any you feel you can score points off.
Continue to avoid engaging in any serious discussion, and you will continue to be seen in the same light you are now.
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Posted - 2006.10.19 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Cupdeez
You my friend have to much time on your hands..
Type and read all this stuff.. and spie on the ASCN forums... just wow.
You aren't even an involved party and yet you take the time to read 18 pages of posts, make your own post, and then tell Rob he has too much time on his hands. 
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